Aaron Dessner's collaborative relationship with Taylor Swift has not only brought out new flares in her music, it's also brought Swifties out to see Dessner's band, The National, play live. And according to singer Matt Berninger, those fans usually look a little "bewildered" during the set.

“We see a lot of Taylor Swift fans coming to shows and being bewildered by the first 25 minutes or so,” he admitted during an interview with NME before praising the wider reach his band's received in the last decade. “We’ve been blessed with demographics that are across the spectrum. Then 10 or 15 years ago, a lot of younger people started coming [to our shows] – more and more women. The first 10 years was kind of a dude-fest at most of our shows, but that’s changed a lot.”

If any Swifties are curious about checking out The National live, they'll have plenty of chances to do so this fall when the band heads out on a North American tour with The War on Drugs. Check out the full list of dates below.

The National and The War on Drugs 2024 North American Tour Dates

09/12 — Gilford, NH @ Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion

09/13 — New York, NY @ Forest Hills Stadium

09/14 — Mansfield, MA @ Xfinity Center

09/16 — Columbia, MD @ Merriweather Post Pavilion

09/17 — Philadelphia, PA @ TD Pavilion at the Mann Center for Performing Arts

09/19 — Laval, QC @ Place Bell

09/20 — Toronto, ON @ Budweiser Stage

09/21 — Cuyahoga Falls, OH @ Blossom Music Center

09/24 — Chicago, IL @ United Center

09/25 — Sterling Heights, MI @ Michigan Lottery Amphitheatre at Freedom Hill

09/26 — Madison, WI @ Breese Stevens Field

09/28 — Englewood, CO @ Fiddler’s Green Amphitheatre

09/29 — Salt Lake City, UT @ Granary Live

10/01 — Seattle, WA @ Climate Pledge Arena

10/02 — Vancouver, BC @ Pepsi Live at Rogers Arena

10/03 — Portland, OR @ Moda Center

10/06 — Berkeley, CA @ The Greek Theatre

10/07 — Los Angeles, CA @ Hollywood Bowl

10/10 — Mexico City, MX @ Palacio De Los Deportes

Ryan Seacrest